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Sunday works for me.

Greg

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:

> In Hawaii, there will be a BOF about a multicast forwarding control
> scheme where a router on the way prefixes a multicast packet with a
> special header that tells downtree routers where to forward the
> multicast =E2=80=94 Bit Index Explicit Replication, or BIER.
>
> While BIER appears to be very focused on a carrier or datacenter
> perspective (see draft-kumar-bier-use-cases and the other
> draft-*-bier-*), there are applications in constrained node networks
> that would benefit from source-routed multicast.
>
> Several proposals on how to do source-routed multicast in constrained
> node networks are getting ready for consumption.
>
> With its current focus, I don=E2=80=99t think the BIER BOF itself is the =
right
> place to have a technical discussion about this.
> There is no ROLL meeting in Hawaii.
> The 6lo agenda is almost full.
> Should we do this in a side meeting?  (If we do this before Tuesday, we
> can at least report in 6lo =E2=80=94 if we do it on Sunday, we might even=
 have
> an opinion to air during the BIER BOF.)
>
> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sunday works for me.<div><br></div><div>Greg</div></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 3, 2014=
 at 3:42 PM, Carsten Bormann <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cabo@t=
zi.org" target=3D"_blank">cabo@tzi.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex">In Hawaii, there will be a BOF about a multicast forwar=
ding control<br>
scheme where a router on the way prefixes a multicast packet with a<br>
special header that tells downtree routers where to forward the<br>
multicast =E2=80=94 Bit Index Explicit Replication, or BIER.<br>
<br>
While BIER appears to be very focused on a carrier or datacenter<br>
perspective (see draft-kumar-bier-use-cases and the other<br>
draft-*-bier-*), there are applications in constrained node networks<br>
that would benefit from source-routed multicast.<br>
<br>
Several proposals on how to do source-routed multicast in constrained<br>
node networks are getting ready for consumption.<br>
<br>
With its current focus, I don=E2=80=99t think the BIER BOF itself is the ri=
ght<br>
place to have a technical discussion about this.<br>
There is no ROLL meeting in Hawaii.<br>
The 6lo agenda is almost full.<br>
Should we do this in a side meeting?=C2=A0 (If we do this before Tuesday, w=
e<br>
can at least report in 6lo =E2=80=94 if we do it on Sunday, we might even h=
ave<br>
an opinion to air during the BIER BOF.)<br>
<br>
Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten<br>
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