Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter
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Subject: Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter
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+1 just a generalization of my earlier suggestion R. On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Prof. Diego Dujovne <diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl<mailto:diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl>> wrote: Pascal, Michael: I agree with Cenk. I think we need some room for other ideas. Is it too general to use that phrase? Regards, Diego 2016-06-28 10:31 GMT-04:00 Cenk G?ndogan <cnkgndgn@gmail.com<mailto:cnkgndgn@gmail.com>>: Hello Pascal, Michael, Isn't it too restrictive if we limit the text to the non-storing and storing modes only? IMO other modes, like the "P2P Route Discovery" mode as defined inRFC6997 and future modes (if planned) could also benefit from those improvements. How about: Additional protocol elements to reduce bytes over the air and/or the amount of accumulated routing states. On 06/28/2016 03:49 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com<mailto:pthubert@cisco.com>> wrote: > Additional protocol elements to reduce source route headers in > non-storing mode and/or memory consumption in storing mode such as > route projection and BIER. It sounds too prescriptive, as if we have limited ourselves in the charter to those two methods. I don't think that this is your intention. Agreed, Michael. We can bar from " such as ..." on. Cheers, Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Michael Richardson Sent: mardi 28 juin 2016 14:47 To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks <roll@ietf.org<mailto:roll@ietf.org>> Cc: peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl<mailto:stokcons@xs4all.nl>> Subject: Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com<mailto:pthubert@cisco.com>> wrote: > Additional protocol elements to reduce source route headers in > non-storing mode and/or memory consumption in storing mode such as > route projection and BIER. It sounds too prescriptive, as if we have limited ourselves in the charter to those two methods. I don't think that this is your intention. If you wrote: > Additional protocol elements to reduce source route headers in > non-storing mode and/or memory consumption in storing mode. > These elements may leverage mechanisms such as route projection and BIER. would be clearer that these are not the only two admissible methods. I'm not sure that we need to say what the methods are *at all* > There is a wide scope of application areas for LLNs, including > industrial monitoring, building automation (HVAC, lighting, access > control, fire), connected homes, health care, environmental monitoring, > urban sensor networks (e.g. Smart Grid), asset tracking. The Working > Group focuses on routing solutions for a subset of these: connected > home, building and urban sensor networks for which routing requirements > have been specified. These application-specific routing requirement > documents were used for protocol design. > The Working Group focuses on IPv6 routing architectural framework for > these application scenarios. The Framework will take into consideration > various aspects including high reliability in the presence of time > varying loss characteristics and connectivity while permitting > low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressure in > networks potentially comprising a very large number (several thousands) > of nodes. I'd like these two paragraphs removed as being ancient motherhood text. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca<mailto:mcr%2BIETF@sandelman.ca>>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list Roll@ietf.org<mailto:Roll@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list Roll@ietf.org<mailto:Roll@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll -- DIEGO DUJOVNE Profesor Asociado Escuela de Inform?tica y Telecomunicaciones Facultad de Ingenier?a - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile www.ingenieria.udp.cl<http://www.ingenieria.udp.cl> (56 2) 676 8125 _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list Roll@ietf.org<mailto:Roll@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll
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- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Michael Richardson
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Michael Richardson
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Ines Robles
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Cenk Gündogan
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Turner, Randy
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Cenk Gündogan
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Michael Richardson
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Ines Robles
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Rahul Arvind Jadhav (Rahul Arvind Jadhav, 2012 Labs)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Cenk Gündogan
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- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Turner, Randy
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Turner, Randy
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter peter van der Stok
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