Re: [Roll] WG Adoption for turnon-8138 at IETF 106

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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Roll] WG Adoption for turnon-8138 at IETF 106
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This was debated at length during the IETF meeting, which is available on youtube.
I also posted a discussion on this ML.
We ended up with a time bomb on the bits, they’ll be defines only for RPL v1 (MOP<7).

Cheers,

Pascal

From: Roll <roll-bounces@ietf.org>; On Behalf Of Abdussalam Baryun
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Subject: Re: [Roll] WG Adoption for turnon-8138 at IETF 106



On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 7:34 PM <dominique.barthel@orange.com<mailto:dominique.barthel@orange.com>> wrote:
Dear all,

The call for WG adoption of draft-thubert-roll-turnon-rfc8138 has been open since Nov 19th.
Based on the reaction at the WG meeting in Singapore (IETF106) and on the mailing list after that, the WG chairs declare consensus on the matter.
Therefore, Pascal, can you please republish the draft as a WG document?

For the record:

  *   There were positive opinions, including from people who actively contribute to the writing of drafts at ROLL and related WGs, and who contribute to developing or evaluating their implementations.
  *   There was one opposition, arguing that RFC8138 turn on should be done another way.

  *   There is no substantiated technical proposal on the table other than draft-thubert-roll-turnon-rfc8138.
Adding to the WG record, that that draft is using a reserved bits for configuring the RPL DAG, and it is using it for configuring the data compression. The argument on the WG list with authors was WHY that use of reserved (important question), IMO they did not answer that but asked for another proposal. Usually IMHO if we get a proposal we discuss that one proposal and find ways to modify and answer question of why it was designed that way, because we are working as an ietf group not as individuals.

AB



De : Roll <roll-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Ines Robles <mariainesrobles=40googlemail.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:mariainesrobles=40googlemail..com@dmarc.ietf.org>>
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Date : Tuesday 19 November 2019 02:24
À : "roll@ietf.org<mailto:roll@ietf.org>" <roll@ietf.org<mailto:roll@ietf.org>>
Objet : [Roll] WG Adoption for turnon-8138 at IETF 106

Dear all,

Today at ROLL Meeting we will discuss the adoption of turnon-8138. It would be nice if you could state your opinion on-site or remotely. The adoption call will be confirmed by ML also,

Thanks,

Ines, Dominique and Peter.

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