Re: [Roll] WGLC for draft-thubert-6man-flow-label-for-rpl-03

Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 02 August 2014 20:56 UTC

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> On Aug 2, 2014, at 4:48 PM, "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> That sounds right, Michael,

I agree that "updates 6437" is a right thing to do.

> though slightly on the overkill side.

I disagree that it is overkill.  In my opinion, draft-thubert-6man-flow-label-for-RPL pretty clearly contradicts RFC 6437, so "updates 6437" is an appropriate action.

>  And this is consistent with what Brian suggested. This can be added during the rfc editor process I expect?

It should be added as soon as possible, certainly before it goes to the IESG.  In my opinion, the change might warrant a new or extended WGLC; that action is up to the chairs, of course.

- Ralph

> 
> Pascal
> 
>> Le 2 août 2014 à 21:09, "Michael Richardson" <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
>>> OTOH you need to understand that there is no need for a bis to update a
>>> MUST in an RFC. We recognize the imperfection in our work and are
>>> always ready to revise and amend after due consideration.
>> 
>> Perhaps this document UPDATES 6437 then?
>> 
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>> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>ca>, Sandelman Software Works
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