Re: [Roll] Unaware-leaves - ND-Status and RPL-Status linkage

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Fri, 27 December 2019 06:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Roll] Unaware-leaves - ND-Status and RPL-Status linkage
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Rahul Jadhav <rahul.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> > > You mean that we could change the ND status to 6-bits in the 6lo
    >> WG?  > (I would have parsed ND status as being someing 6man takes care
    >> of)
    >> 
    >> Yes, or mandate that the 64 first Status values are reserved for stuff
    >> that could be carried in RPL
    >> 

    RJ> Wondering how such a mandate would work. IF we do it this way,
    RJ> future extensions to ND ARO status need to consider whether they are
    RJ> applicable to RPL and define accordingly. This implies familiarity in
    RJ> 6lo/6MAN with RPL.

    > I prefer the other approach where we restrict the ND ARO status to
    > 64bits itself. Anyways using 128 bits in the future seems far-fetched
    > (as indicated by Pascal before). But to limit ND ARO status to 64bits
    > we need to convince the 6lo/6MAN group that "because of RPL" we need to
    > reduce the size. I am not sure if this is easy to digest!

I thought that we had 6-bits to store 64-values, while ND has 8-bits to store
256 values.  Please correct me if I mis-understood.

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