Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter

"Prof. Diego Dujovne" <diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl> Tue, 28 June 2016 14:46 UTC

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Pascal, Michael:
                         I agree with Cenk. I think we need some room for
other ideas. Is it too general to use that phrase?
Regards,

                                          Diego

2016-06-28 10:31 GMT-04:00 Cenk Gündogan <cnkgndgn@gmail.com>;:

> Hello Pascal, Michael,
>
> Isn't it too restrictive if we limit the text to the non-storing and
> storing modes only?
> IMO other modes, like the "P2P Route Discovery" mode as defined inRFC6997
> and future modes (if planned) could also benefit from those improvements.
>
> How about:
> Additional protocol elements to reduce bytes over the air and/or the
> amount of accumulated routing states.
>
>
> On 06/28/2016 03:49 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:
>
>> Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com>; wrote:
>>
>>>     > Additional protocol elements to reduce source route headers in
>>>     > non-storing mode and/or memory consumption in storing mode such as
>>>     > route projection and BIER.
>>> It sounds too prescriptive, as if we have limited ourselves in the
>>> charter to those two methods.  I don't think that this is your intention.
>>>
>> Agreed, Michael. We can bar from " such as ..." on.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Pascal
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael
>>> Richardson
>>> Sent: mardi 28 juin 2016 14:47
>>> To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks <roll@ietf.org>;
>>> Cc: peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl>;
>>> Subject: Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter
>>>
>>>
>>> Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com>; wrote:
>>>      > Additional protocol elements to reduce source route headers in
>>>      > non-storing mode and/or memory consumption in storing mode such as
>>>      > route projection and BIER.
>>>
>>> It sounds too prescriptive, as if we have limited ourselves in the
>>> charter to those
>>> two methods.  I don't think that this is your intention.
>>>
>>> If you wrote:
>>>
>>>      > Additional protocol elements to reduce source route headers in
>>>      > non-storing mode and/or memory consumption in storing mode.
>>>      > These elements may leverage mechanisms such as route projection
>>> and
>>> BIER.
>>>
>>> would be clearer that these are not the only two admissible methods.
>>> I'm not sure that we need to say what the methods are *at all*
>>>
>>>      > There is a wide scope of application areas for LLNs, including
>>>      > industrial monitoring, building automation (HVAC, lighting, access
>>>      > control, fire), connected homes, health care, environmental
>>> monitoring,
>>>      > urban sensor networks (e.g. Smart Grid), asset tracking.  The
>>> Working
>>>      > Group focuses on routing solutions for a subset of these:
>>> connected
>>>      > home, building and urban sensor networks for which routing
>>> requirements
>>>      > have been specified. These application-specific routing
>>> requirement
>>>      > documents were used for protocol design.
>>>
>>>      > The Working Group focuses on IPv6 routing architectural framework
>>> for
>>>      > these application scenarios. The Framework will take into
>>> consideration
>>>      > various aspects including high reliability in the presence of time
>>>      > varying loss characteristics and connectivity while permitting
>>>      > low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressure in
>>>      > networks potentially comprising a very large number (several
>>> thousands)
>>>      > of nodes.
>>>
>>> I'd like these two paragraphs removed as being ancient motherhood text.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> IPv6 IoT consulting =-
>>>
>>>
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