Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter
"Prof. Diego Dujovne" <diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl> Tue, 28 June 2016 14:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter
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Pascal, Michael: I agree with Cenk. I think we need some room for other ideas. Is it too general to use that phrase? Regards, Diego 2016-06-28 10:31 GMT-04:00 Cenk Gündogan <cnkgndgn@gmail.com>: > Hello Pascal, Michael, > > Isn't it too restrictive if we limit the text to the non-storing and > storing modes only? > IMO other modes, like the "P2P Route Discovery" mode as defined inRFC6997 > and future modes (if planned) could also benefit from those improvements. > > How about: > Additional protocol elements to reduce bytes over the air and/or the > amount of accumulated routing states. > > > On 06/28/2016 03:49 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > >> Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: >> >>> > Additional protocol elements to reduce source route headers in >>> > non-storing mode and/or memory consumption in storing mode such as >>> > route projection and BIER. >>> It sounds too prescriptive, as if we have limited ourselves in the >>> charter to those two methods. I don't think that this is your intention. >>> >> Agreed, Michael. We can bar from " such as ..." on. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Pascal >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael >>> Richardson >>> Sent: mardi 28 juin 2016 14:47 >>> To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks <roll@ietf.org> >>> Cc: peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> >>> Subject: Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter >>> >>> >>> Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: >>> > Additional protocol elements to reduce source route headers in >>> > non-storing mode and/or memory consumption in storing mode such as >>> > route projection and BIER. >>> >>> It sounds too prescriptive, as if we have limited ourselves in the >>> charter to those >>> two methods. I don't think that this is your intention. >>> >>> If you wrote: >>> >>> > Additional protocol elements to reduce source route headers in >>> > non-storing mode and/or memory consumption in storing mode. >>> > These elements may leverage mechanisms such as route projection >>> and >>> BIER. >>> >>> would be clearer that these are not the only two admissible methods. >>> I'm not sure that we need to say what the methods are *at all* >>> >>> > There is a wide scope of application areas for LLNs, including >>> > industrial monitoring, building automation (HVAC, lighting, access >>> > control, fire), connected homes, health care, environmental >>> monitoring, >>> > urban sensor networks (e.g. Smart Grid), asset tracking. The >>> Working >>> > Group focuses on routing solutions for a subset of these: >>> connected >>> > home, building and urban sensor networks for which routing >>> requirements >>> > have been specified. These application-specific routing >>> requirement >>> > documents were used for protocol design. >>> >>> > The Working Group focuses on IPv6 routing architectural framework >>> for >>> > these application scenarios. The Framework will take into >>> consideration >>> > various aspects including high reliability in the presence of time >>> > varying loss characteristics and connectivity while permitting >>> > low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressure in >>> > networks potentially comprising a very large number (several >>> thousands) >>> > of nodes. >>> >>> I'd like these two paragraphs removed as being ancient motherhood text. >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= >>> IPv6 IoT consulting =- >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Roll mailing list >> Roll@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >> > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > -- DIEGO DUJOVNE Profesor Asociado Escuela de Informática y Telecomunicaciones Facultad de Ingeniería - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile www.ingenieria.udp.cl (56 2) 676 8125
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Ines Robles
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Michael Richardson
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Michael Richardson
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Ines Robles
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Cenk Gündogan
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Turner, Randy
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Cenk Gündogan
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Michael Richardson
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Ines Robles
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Rahul Arvind Jadhav (Rahul Arvind Jadhav, 2012 Labs)
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Cenk Gündogan
- [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Ines Robles
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Turner, Randy
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Turner, Randy
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] Request for Comments for ROLL Charter peter van der Stok