Re: [Roll] WGLC for draft-thubert-6man-flow-label-for-rpl-03

Hi Brian,

Thanks for your comment.

Actually, I did not ask a question, I just wanted to say that the Pascal's
draft got consensus at ROLL in april, and the WGLC was done between 6man
and ROLL to know the 6man opinion about the use of flow-label (tickets #5,
#6 and #7). With the new Carsten proposal (6lo draft), we (constrained
environment WGs) should analyze this approach and decide the further steps
on Pascal draft related with that.

Thanks,

Ines

2014-08-13 2:38 GMT+03:00 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>:

> Ines,
>
> Can you perhaps clarify the exact question you are asking 6man?
>
> (I'm thinking that 6man isn't being asked whether the number
> of bits saved is a useful energy saving, or whether Carsten's
> proposal is better.)
>
> Regards
>    Brian
>
> On 12/08/2014 19:15, Ines Robles wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On April, it was discussed and got consensus in ROLL [
> > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/roll/current/msg08634.html].
> >
> > This technique saves bytes, as was demonstrated by Xavier in his
> > implementation [ start on Slide 41 -
> >
> https://bytebucket.org/6tisch/meetings/raw/712902bb451d113494a7045e9730f1bb50335a79/140720_ietf90_plugfest_toronto/ietf90_toronto_plugfest_slides.pdf
> ].
> > Maybe we should enumerate the advantages and disadvantages of using it.
> > (Some of these are tracked in ticket #5, #6 and #7).
> >
> >
> > Anyway, demostratedIt needs the 6man approval to go forward.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ines
> >
> >
> > 2014-08-11 23:26 GMT+03:00 Brian E Carpenter <
> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> On 12/08/2014 01:54, Ole Troan wrote:
> >>>> I *really* don't think RFCs are algorithms to the point where we
> >>>> need to do this. I see no reason why flow-label-for-rpl can't simply
> >>>> declare itself an exception to this clause of RFC 6437.
> >>> I must admit I'm uncomfortable with this draft and its approach. how
> can
> >> we be sure that we aren't opening a Pandora's box?
> >>> I'm worried that we set a precedence, and we'll see a new set of
> >> creative proposals for the use of these 20 bits.
> >>
> >> Well, that has been the case for a long time: see RFC 6294.
> >>
> >> I see the concern. Actually that's why I don't want to see a formal
> >> update to 6437, because the only rational update would be to allow
> >> any closed domain to invent its own usage. We had that argument at
> >> length during the development of 6437, and decided against it.
> >> Therefore, treating RPL as a special case is the remaining option.
> >> But does the ROLL community actually have consensus that they want
> >> this special case?
> >>
> >>    Brian
> >>
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