Re: A virtual "interim" on Evolving Routing Security in the Internet

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Sat, 18 September 2021 11:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: A virtual "interim" on Evolving Routing Security in the Internet
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Thanks Adrian -- maybe this is the first “IETF virtual interim side 
meeting” ;-)

On 9/18/2021 7:11 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>
> Hi Lou,
>
> Yes, it’s just something that Dan and I put together in the context of 
> our work at https://github.com/danielkinguk/sarah/ 
> <https://github.com/danielkinguk/sarah/>
>
> Our aim is, periodically, to bring together some key research work on 
> or related to routing and addressing that we think would be of benefit 
> to IETFers and others in the field. At the same time, we want to try 
> to trigger discussion about the nature of research into routing and 
> addressing, and uncover some of the important questions that are not 
> always given enough attention.
>
> I think the side meeting is reasonably established (at IETF meetings), 
> but they are meetings of convenience and, while they typically carry 
> the IETF contributors’ rules, they are not formally part of the IETF.
>
> But I am unclear on the feasibility of “IETF virtual interim side 
> meetings”.
>
> So, what we are doing is having a small workshop (just 90 minutes) 
> following much of the same procedure as would happen at an IETF side 
> meeting, but it is not an IETF meeting.
>
> Nevertheless, I have a slide that begins…
>
> Note Well – This is _Not_ an IETF meeting
>
> But let’s apply IETF policies for patents and code of conduct in this 
> meeting
>
> …and then goes on to the usual BCP79 material etc.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adrian
>
> *From:*routing-discussion <routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org> *On 
> Behalf Of *Lou Berger
> *Sent:* 18 September 2021 11:50
> *To:* adrian@olddog.co.uk; routing-discussion@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org
> *Cc:* 'King, Daniel' <d.king@lancaster.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: A virtual "interim" on Evolving Routing Security in the 
> Internet
>
> Hi Adrian
>
> Interesting stuff!
>
> >  (Please note, this is not an IETF/IRTF meeting, but we thought the IETF/IRTF community would be 
> interested.)
>
> Who is the sponsoring organization for this meeting?
>
> If just you and Dan, why not just run it as an IETF interim with rules 
> (e.g. IPR) we all understand?
>
> Thanks,
> Lou
>
> ----------
> On September 16, 2021 6:19:30 AM Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk 
> <mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     We've put together a small workshop on Evolving Routing Security
>     in the
>     Internet to be held on Thursday 30th September at 3pm UTC [1]
>
>     Our objective is to bring relevant information and research to the
>     routing
>     community and spark discussion about routing research.
>
>     Attendance is open and free.
>
>     Meeting materials will be at
>     https://github.com/danielkinguk/sarah/tree/main/conferences/security-worksho
>     <https://github.com/danielkinguk/sarah/tree/main/conferences/security-worksho>
>     p
>
>     We will use Webex :
>     https://htf-paris.my.webex.com/htf-paris.my-en/j.php?MTID=mc8bb1a7bcda855d14
>     <https://htf-paris.my.webex.com/htf-paris.my-en/j.php?MTID=mc8bb1a7bcda855d14>
>     060678f65272117 and stream the meeting on YouTube at
>     https://youtu.be/V9CZC42BTDc <https://youtu.be/V9CZC42BTDc>
>
>     Our agenda for this meeting features three presentations and a
>     period for
>     open discussion.
>     * Mutually Agreed Norms for Routing Security
>     Andrei Robachevsky, Internet Society
>     * Lightweight blockchain assisted secure routing of swarm UAS
>     networking
>     Houbing Song and Jian Wang, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University
>     * On-Demand Blind Packet Forwarding
>     Irfan Simsek, University of Duisburg-Essen
>
>     We hope you can fit this into your schedule.
>
>     (Please note, this is not an IETF/IRTF meeting, but we thought the
>     IETF/IRTF
>     community would be interested.)
>
>     Best,
>     Adrian and Dan
>
>     [1]
>     https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20210930T150000&p1
>     <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20210930T150000&p1>
>     =1440&p2=tz_pt&p3=tz_et&p4=tz_bst&p5=tz_cest&p6=tz_cst-china
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