Re: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG
Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 12 July 2017 20:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG
From: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
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Same problem... Regards, Jeff > On Jul 12, 2017, at 09:39, Alvaro Retana (aretana) <aretana@cisco.com> wrote: > > FYI.. > > I believe there is a significant relationship to routing. > > This Proposed RG is unfortunately scheduled against the ideas BOF, so I won't be able to attend. For those not attending the ideas BOF, please make time for panrg. > > Thanks! > > Alvaro. > > Thumb-typed and autocorrected.. > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Brian Trammell (IETF)" <ietf@trammell.ch> >> Date: July 12, 2017 at 2:21:47 AM EDT >> To: tsv-area@ietf.org >> Cc: panrg@irtf.org >> Subject: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG >> >> Greetings, all, >> >> We'll be having a first meeting of the proposed Path Aware Networking (PAN) RG at IETF 99 in Prague next week, 13:30 Wednesday in Congress Hall 3. Since bringing path awareness to the endpoint has been the focus, at least in part, of a couple of running TSV working groups (MPTCP, TAPS), this RG seems to be of general interest to the transport area. Olivier Bonaventure will give a review and overview of research to date in this space, and Adrian Perrig will present a fully path-aware Internet architecture, as an illustration of what is possible when path-awareness is promoted to a first-order goal. >> >> From our proposed charter (https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/panrg/about): >> >> The Internet architecture assumes a division between the end-to-end >> functionality of the transport layer and the properties of the path between the >> endpoints. The path is assumed to be invisible, homogeneous, singular, with >> dynamics solely determined by the connectivity of the endpoints and the Internet >> control plane. Endpoints have very little information about the paths over which >> their traffic is carried, and no control at all beyond the destination address. >> >> Increased diversity in access networks, and ubiquitous mobile connectivity, have >> made this architecture's assumptions about paths less tenable. Multipath >> protocols taking advantage of this mobile connectivity begin to show us a way >> forward, though: if endpoints cannot control the path, at least they can >> determine the properties of the path by choosing among paths available to them. >> >> This research group aims to support research in bringing path awareness to >> transport and application layer protocols, and to bring research in this space >> to the attention of the Internet engineering and protocol design community. >> >> The scope of work within the RG includes, but is not strictly limited to: >> >> - communication and discovery of information about the properties of a path on >> local networks and in internetworks, exploration of trust and risk models >> associated with this information, and algorithms for path selection at >> endpoints based on this information. >> >> - algorithms for making transport-layer scheduling decisions based on >> information about path properties. >> >> - algorithms for reconciling path selection at endpoints with widely deployed >> routing protocols and network operations best practices. >> >> The research group's scope overlaps with existing IETF and IRTF efforts, and >> will collaborate with groups chartered to work on multipath transport protocols >> (MPTCP, QUIC, TSVWG), congestion control in multiply-connected environments >> (ICCRG), and alternate routing architectures (e.g. LISP), and is related to >> the questions raised in the multiple recent BoF sessions that have addressed >> path awareness and multiply-connected networks (e.g. SPUD, PLUS, BANANA). >> >> he PAN(P)RG intends to meet at each IETF meeting until a >> determination is made whether or not to charter it. Afterward, the RG intends to >> meet at 1-3 IETF meetings per year, and hold one workshop per year, colocated >> with a related academic conference. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Panrg mailing list >> Panrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/panrg > _______________________________________________ > routing-discussion mailing list > routing-discussion@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/routing-discussion
- Fwd: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG Alvaro Retana (aretana)
- Re: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG Alvaro Retana (aretana)