Re: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Wed, 12 July 2017 20:16 UTC
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 22:16:27 +0200
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" <aretana@cisco.com>, "routing-discussion@ietf.org" <routing-discussion@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG
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+1 Any chance to swap slots for panrg with something else ? On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:01:10PM -0700, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > Same problem... > > Regards, > Jeff > > > On Jul 12, 2017, at 09:39, Alvaro Retana (aretana) <aretana@cisco.com> wrote: > > > > FYI.. > > > > I believe there is a significant relationship to routing. > > > > This Proposed RG is unfortunately scheduled against the ideas BOF, so I won't be able to attend. For those not attending the ideas BOF, please make time for panrg. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Alvaro. > > > > Thumb-typed and autocorrected.. > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > >> From: "Brian Trammell (IETF)" <ietf@trammell.ch> > >> Date: July 12, 2017 at 2:21:47 AM EDT > >> To: tsv-area@ietf.org > >> Cc: panrg@irtf.org > >> Subject: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG > >> > >> Greetings, all, > >> > >> We'll be having a first meeting of the proposed Path Aware Networking (PAN) RG at IETF 99 in Prague next week, 13:30 Wednesday in Congress Hall 3. Since bringing path awareness to the endpoint has been the focus, at least in part, of a couple of running TSV working groups (MPTCP, TAPS), this RG seems to be of general interest to the transport area. Olivier Bonaventure will give a review and overview of research to date in this space, and Adrian Perrig will present a fully path-aware Internet architecture, as an illustration of what is possible when path-awareness is promoted to a first-order goal. > >> > >> From our proposed charter (https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/panrg/about): > >> > >> The Internet architecture assumes a division between the end-to-end > >> functionality of the transport layer and the properties of the path between the > >> endpoints. The path is assumed to be invisible, homogeneous, singular, with > >> dynamics solely determined by the connectivity of the endpoints and the Internet > >> control plane. Endpoints have very little information about the paths over which > >> their traffic is carried, and no control at all beyond the destination address. > >> > >> Increased diversity in access networks, and ubiquitous mobile connectivity, have > >> made this architecture's assumptions about paths less tenable. Multipath > >> protocols taking advantage of this mobile connectivity begin to show us a way > >> forward, though: if endpoints cannot control the path, at least they can > >> determine the properties of the path by choosing among paths available to them. > >> > >> This research group aims to support research in bringing path awareness to > >> transport and application layer protocols, and to bring research in this space > >> to the attention of the Internet engineering and protocol design community. > >> > >> The scope of work within the RG includes, but is not strictly limited to: > >> > >> - communication and discovery of information about the properties of a path on > >> local networks and in internetworks, exploration of trust and risk models > >> associated with this information, and algorithms for path selection at > >> endpoints based on this information. > >> > >> - algorithms for making transport-layer scheduling decisions based on > >> information about path properties. > >> > >> - algorithms for reconciling path selection at endpoints with widely deployed > >> routing protocols and network operations best practices. > >> > >> The research group's scope overlaps with existing IETF and IRTF efforts, and > >> will collaborate with groups chartered to work on multipath transport protocols > >> (MPTCP, QUIC, TSVWG), congestion control in multiply-connected environments > >> (ICCRG), and alternate routing architectures (e.g. LISP), and is related to > >> the questions raised in the multiple recent BoF sessions that have addressed > >> path awareness and multiply-connected networks (e.g. SPUD, PLUS, BANANA). > >> > >> he PAN(P)RG intends to meet at each IETF meeting until a > >> determination is made whether or not to charter it. Afterward, the RG intends to > >> meet at 1-3 IETF meetings per year, and hold one workshop per year, colocated > >> with a related academic conference. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Panrg mailing list > >> Panrg@irtf.org > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/panrg > > _______________________________________________ > > routing-discussion mailing list > > routing-discussion@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/routing-discussion > _______________________________________________ > routing-discussion mailing list > routing-discussion@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/routing-discussion -- --- tte@cs.fau.de
- Fwd: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG Alvaro Retana (aretana)
- Re: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Panrg] Proposed Path Aware Networking RG Alvaro Retana (aretana)