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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Le 25/02/2026 =C3=A0 09:47, Maarten Wu=
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      It was also understood by me (anecdotal evidence through blogs)
      that the use of true RMM level 3 was not that common, but i could
      be wrong here.</blockquote>
    <p>Ho no, you're right, it is pretty rare.</p>
    <p>But I've been deploying REST APIs for a few years now and one of
      my realizations is that people vastly underestimate how useful it
      could be if it was there. There's a vicious circle where people
      don't benefit from REST, suffer from its absence, internalize that
      this state of affairs is the unavoidable reality, and dismiss even
      the idea that some engineering pattern could make the situation
      better. The fact that the solution is named REST and that everyone
      believes that it means RMM2 makes the situation worse, I suppose.</=
p>
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      <div>Anyway, the use of RMM3 might be redundant when all API
        endpoints are already known and described in IETF document(s)</di=
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    <p>You may note that it is a tautological reason not to use REST=E2=80=
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      ;-)</p>
    <p>Also, it's not entirely true, if we take into account the
      possibility of changes in the future.<br>
    </p>
    <p>REST can get especially interesting when you need to change how a
      server is organized. If the routes are hardcoded in the
      client-server contract, that's something you cannot leverage for
      migrations.</p>
    <p>For example, using REST would mean that provisioning objects
      could live on several servers according to any rule server-side,
      that the clients don't need to bother with. Clients would ask for
      the collections they have access to, and discover dynamically
      where they live.</p>
    <p>Anticipatorily,<br>
      Pierre Thierry<br>
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