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Le 02/03/2026 à 23:01, Pawel Kowalik a écrit :
> - is this draft the right place to describe business logic (example 
> RGP in 2.5.5.)? If not, where?

Maybe it's a similar question: should RPP provide stricter types than 
"String" with subsets of Unicode code points from RFC 9839 or PRECIS, or 
should it let invalid strings be dealt with on another layer?

I saw that RPP Architecture 5.2.3 says there will be descriptions using 
a schema language, will they go in the Data Objects documents? (that 
could be that other layer where proper restrictions are expressed)

Curiously,
Pierre Thierry
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