Re: [RPSEC] BGP Security Requirements v08
Curtis Villamizar <curtis@occnc.com> Tue, 17 July 2007 14:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [RPSEC] BGP Security Requirements v08
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In message <p06240507c2c167b442a1@[128.89.89.71]> Stephen Kent writes: > > I think the question is why, if the path info received by an "island > AS" has a number of unverified hops, is this path info useful, in a > security sense, to the AS that receives? How does the requirement to > send such info promote adoption of the protocol? > > Steve Because it is likely to be more reliable than information with no authentication at all. The major ISPs are fairly reliable at getting their internal routing right so if the non-authenticating routers in the middle are entirely in a set of ISPs that are known to generally not have breakins into their own infrastructure. For the purposes of commercial traffic among other ISPs that want to distinguish their services as having somewhat more reliable routing due to the use of authentication, there is a great deal of value. It may be optimistic to think that this value would be enough to give any routing authentication sufficient value to gain critical mass in the commercial world. If there is no value for islands of deployment except to authenticate within the island this is a non-starter from day one in the commercial world. If so it may be a non-starter at router vendors without a very large influx of money from elsewhere, such as government funding specifically for something that is not being implemented because it will never get commercially deployed. If you are sure that the money is out there waiting for this spec to publish, then fine. Otherwise you may be wasting your time and ours if the requirement to add value to disconnected islands is ignored. That's just an opinion and I don't know how widely held it is today. This might be a good question to ask at the WG meeting. Curtis _______________________________________________ RPSEC mailing list RPSEC@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rpsec
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