Re: [rrg] RRG to hibernation

Dae Young KIM <dykim@cnu.kr> Tue, 13 November 2012 08:45 UTC

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On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> wrote:

>
> > On one hand, having each hosts in a site deal with multiple PA prefixes
> won't be much fun.
>
>
> Fortunately, only the network administrator HAS to deal with the multiple
> prefixes, setting up one per provider.  After that, everything within the
> network can be automated.
>

Does this mean renumbering?

>
>
> > On the other, the same connection resilience could be achieved with some
> sort of session management function on top of TCP, without resorting to LIS.
>
>
> Absolutely true.  But then it might require application changes, which
> we'd like to avoid.  It would also not be intrinsic in the architecture.
>

Which architecture?

And no application change with ILNP? I thought there'd be application
changes with ILNP, although none with the routers. Apps should take only
the half of the IPv6 address as host ID, not the whole.

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DY