Re: [rrg] RRG to hibernation

Dae Young KIM <dykim@cnu.kr> Tue, 13 November 2012 00:12 UTC

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Hi, Joel,

Perhaps a more direct question might serve here:

   o How has ILNP solved the problem of the DFZ routing table explosion?

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com>wrote:

> I do not see the difficulty.  We already have the IPv6 mechanisms to
> advertise the prefixes.  And we have the IPv6 mechanisms for hosts to
> combne the prefixes with teir IDs.
> We also have the dynamic DNS mechanisms (with security) needed to
> advertise the results.
>
> With ILP, these combinations can be changed during sessions, and traffic
> can change paths during sessions without impact.
> With the current architecture, sessions can not change paths, and changes
> to the connectivity are hard to discover or utilize.
>
> Thee are other multi-homing problems that are not solved.  Working out how
> to manage prefix assignments in an enterprise when external assignments
> change is one example of such issues (LISP takes a different tack, and thus
> the costs and benefits are different.)
>
> Yours,
> Joel
>

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DY