Re: [rrg] Rebooting the RRG

Sampo Syreeni <decoy@iki.fi> Tue, 04 February 2014 18:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rrg] Rebooting the RRG
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On 2014-02-04, Osterweil, Eric wrote:

>> Please don't kill the mailing list. It doesn't hurt anyone, and having
>> it around will make it easier to have ad hoc discussions. You can
>> declare the RRG suspended (it is :-)) but I don't see the point in
>> expunging it.
>
> +1

-1. In the sense that stale lists really *can* hurt the normal IETF 
process. It's not for nothing that they are kept to a minimum.

At the same time, even as the kind of lurker that I am, it'd be sad to 
see the list go, especially when there's so much research level routing 
stuff out there. Starting with my two favourites, which are content/name 
based routing as a fundamental primitive, and how to model+push the data 
from current overlays into the primary routing fabric.
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