[rrg] Rebuttal to Critique of “Enhanced Efficiency of Mapping Distribution Protocols in Map-and-Encap Schemes”
"Sriram, Kotikalapudi" <kotikalapudi.sriram@nist.gov> Mon, 22 February 2010 04:04 UTC
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From: "Sriram, Kotikalapudi" <kotikalapudi.sriram@nist.gov>
To: Lixia Zhang <lixia@cs.ucla.edu>, "rrg@irtf.org" <rrg@irtf.org>
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Subject: [rrg] Rebuttal to Critique of “Enhanced Efficiency of Mapping Distribution Protocols in Map-and-Encap Schemes”
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Rebuttal to Critique of “Enhanced Efficiency of Mapping Distribution Protocols in Map-and-Encap Schemes” Draft of the proposal: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-rrg-recommendation-04#section-13 More detailed document: http://www.antd.nist.gov/~ksriram/NGRA_map_mgmt.pdf (substantially revised version to be posted within the next week) Critique (posted by Lixia Zhang on Feb 13, 2010): http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rrg/current/msg06025.html Another critique posted by Robin earlier today (it appears that he missed seeing Lixia’s critique cited above): http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rrg/current/msg06087.html Note: This rebuttal was prepared primarily in response to the critique posted by Lixia, and prior to the posting of Robin’s critique today on the list, but I feel that it still covers several aspects addressed in Robin’s critique as well. Therefore, I am posting this rebuttal for now partly in the interest of meeting the rebuttal deadline (I guess it already passed), but also partly to offer my responses to some of Robin’s comments. I will follow up with further response to Robin’s other comments in additional email messages later within the next week or so. ---------------------------- Rebuttal (from Sriram and his co-authors; 494 words): There are two main points in the critique that would be addressed here: (1) The gain depends on the details of specific EID blocks, i.e., how frequently the situations arise such as an ETR having a bigger EID block with a few holes, and (2) Approach 2 is lacking an added feature of conveying just the mask-length of the more specifics that exist as part of current map-response. Regarding comment (1) above, there are multiple possibilities regarding how situations can arise resulting in allocations having holes in them. An example of one of these possibilities is as follows. Org-A has historically received multiple /20s, /22s, /24s over the course of time which are adjacent to each other. At the present time, these prefixes would all aggregate to a /16 but for the fact that just a few of the underlying /24s have been allocated elsewhere historically to other organizations by an RIR or ISPs. An example of a second possibility is that Org-A has an allocation of a /16 prefix. It has suballocated a /22 to one of its subsidiaries, and subsequently sold the subsidiary to another Org-B. For ease of keeping the /22 subnet up and running without service disruption, the /22 subprefix is allowed to be transferred in the acquisition process. Now the /22 subprefix originates from a different AS and is serviced by a different ETR (as compared to the parent \16 prefix). We are in the process of performing an analysis of RIR allocation data and are aware of other studies (notably at UCLA) which are also performing similar analysis to quantify the frequency of occurrence of the holes. We feel that the problem that has been addressed is a realistic one, and the proposed scheme would help reduce the overheads associated with the mapping distribution system. Regarding comment (2) above, the suggested modification to Approach 2 would be definitely beneficial. In fact, we feel that it would be fairly straight forward to dynamically use Approach 1 or Approach 2 (with the suggested modification), depending on whether there are only a few (e.g., <=5) or many (e.g., >5) more specifics, respectively. The suggested modification of notifying the mask-length of the more specifics in map-response is indeed very helpful because then the ITR would not have to resend a map-query for EID addresses that match the EID address in the previous query up to at least mask-length bit positions. There can be a two-bit field in map-response that would indicate: (a) With value 00 for notifying that there are no more-specifics; (b) With value 01 for notifying that there are more-specifics and their exact information follows in additional map-responses, and (c) With value 10 for notifying that there are more-specifics and the mask-length of the next more-specific is indicated in the current map-response. An additional field will be included which will be used to specify the mask-length of the next more-specific in the case of the “10” indication (case (c) above).
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