Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed
Bruce Davie <bdavie@cisco.com> Wed, 14 July 2010 16:56 UTC
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On Jul 8, 2010, at 2:42 PM, David Harrington wrote: > Hi, > > A few questions. Some answers below. > > Is there any progress on > "RSVP-Directorate-Reviews describes the current guidelines for RSVP > directorate reviewers"? > It would be good to have some consistency to review criteria about > whether a proposal is "worthy". > Will you build this interacively using a wiki, or is somebody going to > take an action item to do this? While we've had discussion on the list about what the criteria are, it hasn't been documented there. I agree that would be good, so I'll put it on my to-do list, but of course other members of the Directorate are welcome to jump in. > > How will recommendations about which WG should consider adopting the > drafts be made? > which criteria will be used to justify a recommendation for passing a > draft to a specific WG? I think the criteria will follow from what I asked the authors to provide for the 3 drafts under current consideration, which I include below: > - What problem with existing RSVP/Intserv are you trying to solve? > - What class of application will benefit if your draft becomes a standard? > - Is there another way to solve this problem (or might someone think there is)? If so, explain how your solution is better. > - What new capability will we have if this draft becomes a standard? > - What community of users will benefit from this work? If the directorate feels that the draft solves a real problem, benefits some class of apps & users, doesn't simply replicate another existing solution, etc, then that would I think form the basis for a recommendation to take it to the WG. And of course it should be technically solid enough to start a WG effort (but would not need to be perfect, of course, to start with). > It will obviously be a WG choice to decide whether to adopt a draft. > So will you recommendation be made to the suthor "we think you should > take it to WG XXX" or to the WG "we think the WG should look at draft > XXX, because we think the draft is worthy of considerations and we > think it fits within your WG scope"? I was imagining the latter. > > Can we make sure that reviews and supporting documents get posted to > the rsvp-dir archive? Sure > is the rsvp-dir archive private or public? > I would argue for private. Anything that we want to be public should be sent to the appropriate WG, IMHO. Bruce > dbh > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rsvp-dir-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:rsvp-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Davie >> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:05 PM >> To: gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk >> Cc: rsvp-dir@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed >> >> Gorry, >> I have asked the directorate to start by looking at 3 drafts >> that have been proposed as WG items: >> >> draft-narayanan-tsvwg-rsvp-resource-sharing-02 >> >> draft-lefaucheur-tsvwg-rsvp-multiple-preemption-02.txt >> draft-polk-tsvwg-intserv-multiple-tspec-03.txt >> >> In response to some questions from Bob Briscoe, I then asked >> all the authors to provide short justifications for why their >> drafts should be adopted (I can pass these on to you if that >> would be helpful). >> >> With that information in hand, I have asked the directorate >> to try to get some reviews done before the upcoming meeting. >> >> Unfortunately, I am unable to attend the meeting in >> Maastricht. I agree, it would be great if one of the other >> directorate members were to introduce our little team in the >> meeting. Any volunteers? >> >> Bruce >> >> >> On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Gorry Fairhurst wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello RSVP directorate! >>> >>> Now that a directorate exists, I'd like help in two ways to >> manage the RSVP work in TSVWG: >>> >>> 1) I'm assuming that you will help with selecting >> appropriate work for adoption of TSVWG (as per the top bullet >> below). How do you see this working, specifically there are a >> number of drafts that currently have not become work items - >> despite author pleas - while we waited for clarification of >> how to handle RSVP work. Undoubtedly I'll be asked if these >> can become work items. As usual I'll push-back on need to do >> the work, and people to review/contribute to the drafts. Are >> there current drafts know to the directorate that would seem >> ready and important enough that the WG should consider taking >> these on? >>> >>> 2) Would someone from the directorate like to say "hi we're >> here and this is our remit" - taht would be helpful in the >> tsvwg meeting! >>> >>> Gorry >>> >>>> At 08:01 AM 5/10/2010, Lars Eggert wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> following the discussion during the IETF-77 TSVAREA >> meeting on how to better review and progress extensions to >> (non-TE) RSVP and IntServ, the transport area directors have >> formed a new RSVP directorate and given it these tasks: >>>>> >>>>> * Review of all new work related to RSVP and Integrated >> Services that >>>>> is proposed for IETF adoption. The purpose of this review is > to >>>>> advise the ADs and the chairs of the Transport Area >> Working Group >>>>> (TSVWG) on whether a particular proposal should be >> taken on as a >>>>> work item. The directorate will continue to guide and >> review such >>>>> new work in TSVWG until it is ready for publication as an > RFC. >>>>> >>>>> * Review of selected documents during IETF last call or >> under IESG >>>>> review. The directorate monitors ongoing IETF work and should >>>>> independently decide when a document will benefit from >> their review, >>>>> assign a reviewer and enter into a follow-on >> discussion with the >>>>> authors. When deemed necessary, the area directors >> will on occasion >>>>> directly consult the directorate while forming their opinion > on >>>>> selected documents being under review by the IESG. >>>>> >>>>> * Cross-working group review. RSVP documents may have >> relevance to >>>>> several working groups, including TSVWG and MPLS-related > groups >>>>> such as MPLS WG and CCAMP WG. The directorate will ensure > that >>>>> drafts submitted to TSV WG are reviewed in the >> appropriate MPLS-related >>>>> WGs if necessary, and will bring drafts from the >> MPLS-related WGs >>>>> to the attention of the TSV WG as appropriate. >>>>> >>>>> The directorate can be reached at rsv-dir@ietf.org. >> Additional information about the directorate is at >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/tsv/trac/wiki/RSVP-Directorate. >>>>> >>>>> Lars >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rsvp-dir mailing list >>> rsvp-dir@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rsvp-dir >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rsvp-dir mailing list >> rsvp-dir@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rsvp-dir >
- [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed Lars Eggert
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed James M. Polk
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed James M. Polk
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed David Harrington
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed James M. Polk
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed Bruce Davie
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed Lars Eggert
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed David Harrington
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed Francois Le Faucheur
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed Bruce Davie
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed David Harrington
- Re: [rsvp-dir] RSVP directorate formed Bruce Davie
- [rsvp-dir] Update from RSVP directorate on RSVP C… Francois Le Faucheur
- Re: [rsvp-dir] Update from RSVP directorate on RS… Gorry Fairhurst
- [rsvp-dir] Fwd: Update from RSVP directorate on R… Bruce Davie
- Re: [rsvp-dir] Fwd: Update from RSVP directorate … Lixia Zhang
- Re: [rsvp-dir] Fwd: Update from RSVP directorate … Bruce Davie
- Re: [rsvp-dir] Fwd: Update from RSVP directorate … Bruce Davie