Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCFE21F87B3 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:42:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D8k5LwVYxSwJ for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (na01-by2-obe.ptr.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA7A21F8726 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:42:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from BY2FFO11FD019.protection.gbl (10.1.15.202) by BY2FFO11HUB034.protection.gbl (10.1.14.118) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.620.12; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:42:34 +0000 Received: from TK5EX14HUBC101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (131.107.125.37) by BY2FFO11FD019.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.1.14.107) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.620.12 via Frontend Transport; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:42:34 +0000 Received: from TK5EX14MBXC273.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([169.254.1.200]) by TK5EX14HUBC101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.7.153]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.003; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:41:51 +0000 From: "Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE)" To: Randell Jesup , "rtcweb@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [rtcweb] Agenda time request for draft-dbenham-webrtcvideomti Thread-Index: AQHOFExGxLgqgTDk7Uq8NoYnsLB7sZiMl0IAgAE+h4CAAA9jMA== Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:41:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: <512D1B14.4080200@nostrum.com> <512E2647.9000109@jesup.org> In-Reply-To: <512E2647.9000109@jesup.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [157.54.51.36] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:131.107.125.37; CTRY:US; IPV:CAL; IPV:NLI; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(199002)(189002)(66066001)(31966008)(47736001)(46406002)(20776003)(54356001)(77982001)(46102001)(56816002)(47776003)(50986001)(50466001)(47446002)(74662001)(49866001)(33656001)(55846006)(23726001)(44976002)(47976001)(74502001)(4396001)(76482001)(59766001)(79102001)(56776001)(54316002)(51856001)(16406001)(53806001)(63696002)(80022001)(65816001); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2FFO11HUB034; H:TK5EX14HUBC101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com; RD:InfoDomainNonexistent; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.onmicrosoft.com X-Forefront-PRVS: 0770F75EA9 Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Agenda time request for draft-dbenham-webrtcvideomti X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:42:51 -0000 Given that some vendors are certain they will not be shipping one, and othe= r vendors are certain they will not be shipping the other, I'm not sure why= we would have the discussion at all... but certainly *quality* isn't the a= xis they're using to make these decisions. I think the draft is great *except* for the quality sections... remove thos= e and we might be able to use it as a great jumping-off point for the actua= l conversation. Matthew Kaufman