Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a developer who doesn't come to IETF
Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org> Fri, 04 May 2012 14:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a developer who doesn't come to IETF
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On 05/04/2012 10:10 AM, Dean Willis wrote: > > > On May 4, 2012 3:45 AM, "Lorenzo Miniero" <lorenzo@meetecho.com > <mailto:lorenzo@meetecho.com>> wrote: > > > > Good arguments but this WILL cut out a lot of content producers or > > interested folks. As you pointed out, you asked someone "who develops > > serious enterprise video stuff", not the student, the geeky guy or the > > small startup who wants to try and make some business with a > > "funny-hat-chat" or "send-your-friends-a-silly-postcard" application > > based on RTCWEB, that is, what is supposed to be the real fuel behind > > innovation in RTCWEB in the future. > > I am more worried about the guy implementing a WebRTC security camera > that uses an embedded Linux kernel and a software video encoder. Each > unit might "produce" video 24x7. But there is no MPEG-LA licensed > browser or OS or encoder chip to fall back on. The whole product might > sell for less than it might cost him to license the codec. > +1 The number of embedded devices, smartphones, cameras, etc, are rapidly outnumbering the number of conventional desktop/laptops, and are FAR more cost sensitive than those uses, and not necessarily going to have bought out the patent for conventional video playback. So I don't find arguments that come from "Enterprise" environments by themselves at all compelling, but merely one more factoid to join the other factoids in the discussion. - Jim
- [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a devel… Dean Willis
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Dean Willis
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Jim Gettys
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… David Benham (dbenham)
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Randell Jesup