Re: [rtcweb] Finishing up the Video Codec document, MTI (again, still, sorry)

Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> Thu, 04 December 2014 23:16 UTC

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From: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 15:16:09 -0800
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Finishing up the Video Codec document, MTI (again, still, sorry)
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:03 PM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:

>
> > On Dec 4, 2014, at 13:59 , Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote:
> >
> > 2014-12-03 19:33 GMT+01:00 David Singer <singer@apple.com>:
> >> As I understand it, the recent face to face meeting decided to draft
> the requirement that WebRTC browsers be required to implement both VP8 and
> H.264, and get feedback on this, on the list.
> >>
> >> This is some feedback.
> >
> > I've been searching in both the rtcweb and public-webrtc mailing
> > lists, and must say that it is VERY SAD that the only "contribution"
> > and "feedback" received from Apple are these regarding "MTI codecs",
> > nothing else.
> >
> > I hope Apple has better things to do than sending FUD to working
> > groups in which they have no interest.
>
> I apologize for both the fact that you think this is FUD, and for the lack
> of other engagement.
>
> Quite where you see the uncertainty and doubt in the “you MUST implement
> something which, it is stated, is subject to IPR which CANNOT be licensed”,
> I am less sure.  Fear, yes, I get that.
>
>
I don't see others being deterred by the alleged uncertainty; there was
quite a broad consensus for this at IETF 91. But again, if this is a
particularly sensitive issue for your employer, I think there are many
potential solutions we can discuss.