Re: [rtcweb] Consensus call regarding media security

Igor Faynberg <igor.faynberg@alcatel-lucent.com> Wed, 28 March 2012 15:56 UTC

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Roman,

I think there is a misunderstanding (I assume you did not attend the 
meeting today).  It has been clarified that SRTP allows the NULL 
encryption algorithm, and that this option will be available.

Igor

On 3/28/2012 11:49 AM, Roman Shpount wrote:
> As I have mentioned before on this list I am strongly against making 
> SRTP protection for RTP a requirement. I think this is an unnecessary 
> requirement that serves little real purpose except feeding into some 
> marketing message that most of the WebRTC users would not care about. 
> Unless use of identity is also a requirement, requiring SRTP will 
> provide security only in a very narrow sense of the word. At the same 
> time I do believe that extra standard requirements will stifle 
> innovation and  will complicate new service or application creation.
>
> I have no objection to making DTLS-SRTP a required to implement protocol.
> _____________
> Roman Shpount
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Magnus Westerlund 
> <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com 
> <mailto:magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>> wrote:
>
>     WG,
>
>     In todays RTCWEB WG meeting there was discussion around media security
>     mechanism. In this meeting there was some clear consensus in the
>     meeting which we would like to confirm on the list.
>
>     The first was that there was overwhelming consensus that all RTP
>     packets SHALL be protected by SRTP.
>
>     Secondly that no one objected against making DTLS-SRTP a mandatory to
>     implement and the default keying mechanism. Additional mechanisms are
>     not precluded.
>
>     WG participants may state their position regarding these consensus
>     calls
>     until 12th of April when the chairs will declare the final
>     consensus. If
>     you where present in the meeting room and comment on this, please
>     indicate that.
>
>     Best Regards
>
>     Magnus Westerlund
>     For the WG chairs
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