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Re: [rtcweb] MTI Video Codec: a novel proposal

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Mon, 10 November 2014 22:58 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] MTI Video Codec: a novel proposal
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On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew@matthew.at>
wrote:

> I cited those three players just as examples of known positions. There are
> several others, of course.
>
> This proposal puts the large initial burden of IPR risk and/or cost on the
> browser vendors...
>
> I think we would need to know how happy Apple, Google, Microsoft, and
> Mozilla (plus the other major browser vendors ) are with a requirement that
> both H.264 and VP8 be included with their browser and/or operating system.
>

As I said previously, we're fine with this requirement.

-Ekr

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