Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-01.txt
Randell Jesup <randell-ietf@jesup.org> Sun, 27 October 2013 09:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-01.txt
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On 10/24/2013 12:59 PM, Ejzak, Richard P (Richard) wrote: > I have a question about draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-01. The browser uses DTLS role to determine which side uses even or odd stream identifiers. What does the application on the side sending the initial SDP offer that establishes the peer connection do if it wants to create data channels before the DTLS role can be determined? How does the browser know if the application tries to select a disallowed stream id? If the application asks the browser to select the stream identifier before DTLS role can be determined, what does the browser do? The W3-level channels are assigned an ID once the DTLS roles are determined; until then the id is undefined (in our implementation they return 65535, an invalid id value - the exact action here is not yet speced in the W3C). You call createDataChannel(...) one or more times. The channel.id's return 65535; when onopen fires the id has been set (and perhaps before, there may be a small window between DTLS role setting/id-selection and onopen). In fact this is the norm, as we won't offer an m=application line for data channels unless the first createDataChannel was called before createOffer (and once we support negotiationneeded, you'll be able to call it later, but that just means negotiationneeded will fire and make you call createOffer()). Once you're connected, you can call createDataChannel all you want with no further negotiationneeded firings. On external negotiation, it's the application's responsibility to select values that won't collide by mistake with either other externally-negotiated values or automatically-generated ones. There are no 'disallowed' values (in the range 0-65534). You can specify an externally-negotiated id value before DTLS roles are set; again, it's up to you not to screw it up. Generally applications won't mix external-negotiated channels with data-protocol negotiated ones, but that is possible so long as the application is moderately careful. -- Randell Jesup -- rjesup a t mozilla d o t com
- [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-proto… internet-drafts
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Matt Fredrickson
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Max Jonas Werner
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Ejzak, Richard P (Richard)
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-p… Justin Uberti