Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN
"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Mon, 31 October 2011 03:27 UTC
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Cc: Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu>, Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>, Behave WG <behave@ietf.org>, "rtcweb@ietf.org" <rtcweb@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN
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For the http vs. https case, there is a very good answer from Roy Fielding at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2006Mar/0040.html In essence, not distinguishing the two schemes would mean either additional roundtrips (assuming http is the more frequent one) or exposition of data on the network that was supposed to be private. Regards, Martin. On 2011/10/30 13:40, Harald Alvestrand wrote: > On 10/29/2011 04:23 PM, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 10/29/2011 03:36 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: >>> 2011/10/29 Harald Alvestrand<harald@alvestrand.no>: >>>> - I do not think it's appropriate to use "turn" and "turns" for >>>> indicating >>>> transport. Polluting the URI namespace with more configuration >>>> parameters in >>>> the form of trailing "s" is a Bad Thing. >>> But there should be some way to indicate that a TURN server listens in >>> TLS, right? >>> >> We should continue this discussion in BEHAVE, but I would like to ask >> the OP to >> send a pointer on the RFC or discussion that says that using a >> trailing "s" to >> indicate security is a bad thing. > I'll have to forward this question to the apps ADs of a few years ago > about whether there's documentation for it. It does not seem to have > been captured in an RFC that I can find; discussion was in the > ~2000-2005 timeframe. > > The short version, from memory: Doing "s" locks you into one and exactly > one security scheme, and prevents you from saying anything about the > requisite parameters for that scheme, while using AUTH parameters such > as POP or in-band negotiation such as IMAP are much more flexible > approaches. > > >> Thanks. >> >> - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin >> Personal email: marc@petit-huguenin.org >> Professional email: petithug@acm.org >> Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAk6sit4ACgkQ9RoMZyVa61dhpgCfZv+XuDhAljo3N0s33zbh6l0E >> aWAAmwUP2mvcZiY9BLB5BAsjoe6OULMl >> =yx3i >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Ned Freed
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Tina TSOU