Re: [rtcweb] VP8 litigation in Germany?

"DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com> Mon, 11 March 2013 22:24 UTC

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From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, "Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com" <Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com>
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I would not expect it to.

Normal declarations cover whether the normative requirements of an RFC or internet draft are covered by a claimed IPR.

As I believe there are no IETF documents that specify H.264 or VP8 directly, then you will not get a direct declaration.

What does exist as an IETF document is the payload format for H.264 (RFC3984 and RFC 6184) and you will see Nokia (among others) have made declarations against this document or the predecessors. However this document only contains normative requirements for making a codec stream into an RTP payload.

Unless IETF actually defines the codec, you will need to go to the IPR database of the SDO that defines the codec to get a fuller story. VP8?

regards

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Ted Hardie
> Sent: 11 March 2013 19:06
> To: Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com
> Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [rtcweb] VP8 litigation in Germany?
> 
> Hi Markus,
> 
> Just confirm my understanding of this:
> 
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:06 AM,  <Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com> wrote:
> >Nokia is preparing to do a disclosure about it to the
> > IETF, "to ensure that IETF working groups and participants have as much
> > information about any IPR constraints on a technical proposal as
> possible",
> > as stated in RFC 3979. That's all the information I have right now, but
> I
> > will keep this list updated as soon as something new comes up.
> 
> this disclosure will cover both H.264 and VP8, as they are the two
> technical proposals?
> 
> regards,
> 
> Ted Hardie
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