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Re: [rtcweb] Data channel setup: scalability, user experience, labels

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Mon, 04 March 2013 18:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Data channel setup: scalability, user experience, labels
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On 4 March 2013 10:36, MARCON, JEROME (JEROME)
<jerome.marcon@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:
> Scalability-challenging scenarios

Honestly, I don't see these as being especially relevant.  Performance
under these sorts of scenarios is largely down to the browser.
Optimizing for crazy scaling cases would be a low priority.

> User consent

We've previously discussed consent for data and since this is
effectively just an optimization of existing channels, user consent
would not just be superfluous, but actually harmful.

> Label usefulness

I can see some limited use for labels.  They aren't super-effective or
necessary.  I'm sure that some people will find a use for them.

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