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Re: [rtcweb] Prioritization

"Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com> Wed, 30 April 2014 21:09 UTC

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From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
To: Matthew Kaufman <matthew.kaufman@skype.net>
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On Apr 25, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE) <matthew.kaufman@skype.net> wrote:

> If a "lower priority" packet is dispatched before a "higher priority" packet in order to "prevent starvation", then what does "higher priority" mean?

I think the labels reflect what "might" happen on average and not for any particular packet. I say "might" because in some deployments it possible the values will have no effect at all and it is possible to construct bizarre environments where you could get the opposite of the desired behavior in some cases. None of that bothers me as the label still seem like the closest to helping developers request the desired treatment. With all things qos like, the best we can for is desired outcome and not what will necessarily happen on internet. 

priority might be better called "desired priority" and the values of "very low, low, med, high" might better be called "broccoli, apple, orange, cherry" - they are really just some labels that describe how the packets *might* be queued by systems they pass through.  I think the fruit labels would be more confusing to web programmers.

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