Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcweb-signaling - Scope
Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug@acm.org> Thu, 20 October 2011 00:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcweb-signaling - Scope
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/19/2011 05:43 PM, Cullen Jennings wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2011, at 6:21 , Christer Holmberg wrote: > >> >> Hi Cullen, >> >>>> So, while I support and offer/answer based approach, I think we need to >>>> get a clearer understanding of the scope. >>> >>> My view is this is draft is a set of semantics and syntax that operates >>> over an abstract transport protocol. In most cases the transport with be >>> web sockets or HTTP based. If this looks like a reasonable protocol, it >>> would be likely to influence the W3C API. >> >> As the ROAP state machine is located in the browser, doesn't that already >> mean that ROAP must to be supported by the API? > > > This whole "is this an API or Protocol discussion" leaves me sort of saying > "Yes" but I'm not sure it matters much. Any API can be turned into a protocol > using a RPC approach. I disagree here. http://labs.oracle.com/techrep/1994/abstract-29.html > Most protocol lead to a fairly obvious API to describe > that protocol. From a category theory point of view, I consider an API the > dual of a protocol. I know opinions differ but in general, I view API's and > protocols as surprisingly similar. > > ROAP is a protocol that could be used to things like a gateway that converted > from ROAP to SIP. However, it is also a protocol that is designed to work > well with an API like one that might be used by W3C for WebRTC. If we go down > this ROAP path, I would expect that the the JSON object that gets represented > by the string in ROAP would be used to pass in the WebRTC API. The two are > closely related - and that is intentional. > > I'm trying to make a protocol that closely fits with what the web browsers > want to implement. > - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Personal email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Professional email: petithug@acm.org Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk6fcYAACgkQ9RoMZyVa61c/HgCgq24f4ukdmxHc1fBZULUS6N2s 49oAnR7EMzKZINs/2za9lI3Dvw1TatuX =wpEC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
- [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcweb-s… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Roman Shpount
- [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with ROA… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Roy, Radhika R USA CIV (US)
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… BeckW
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was Re: S… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- [rtcweb] Forking -Re: SDP Offer/Answer draft-jenn… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was R… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was R… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Stefan Håkansson
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Stefan Håkansson
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Harald Alvestrand
- [rtcweb] Draft name change: draft-holmberg-mmusic… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] API options for supporting fork with… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Forking - Re: SDP Offer/Answer draft… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Forking - Re: SDP Offer/Answer draft… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was R… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was R… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Why SDP answer needs and ack … was R… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] SDP Offer/Answer draft-jennings-rtcw… Cullen Jennings