Re: [rtcweb] VP8 royalty free?

Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> Fri, 29 July 2011 03:12 UTC

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I will refrain from expressing an opinion of Mr. Mueller's views (as I
would when it comes to Groklaw), but please note that the blog post did
contain a link to another document from a different source that contains
quotes of Larry Horn, MPEG-LA's CEO.
I posted that link in a follow up to this list.
Stephan


On 7.28.2011 22:40 , "Jim Gettys" <jg@freedesktop.org> wrote:

>I recommend taking blog postings and other press from this particular
>person (Florian Mueller) with  (more than a pinch) of salt.
>
>His batting average on both knowledge of the law and prior art has been
>very poor and he repeatedly has been portraying himself as an expert at
>such matters.  (If you watch Groklaw, you'll know what I mean).
>                    - Jim
>
>
>On 07/28/2011 08:42 PM, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote:
>> I get:
>>
>> "Blog has been removed
>>
>> Sorry, the blog at fosspatents.blogspot.com has been removed. This
>> address is not available for new blogs."
>>
>> (and same for http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/). Do you have a better
>> address?
>>
>> Regards,   Martin.
>>
>> On 2011/07/29 4:53, Stephan Wenger wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> In today's session, someone characterized VP8 as "royalty free".  On
>>> this
>>> subject, some of you may find the linked blog post (and the article
>>> linked
>>> therein) interesting.  It was posted today, during our session.  To
>>> summarize, DOJ probe or not, MPEG-LA continues its efforts to form an
>>> (presumably royalty-bearing) patent pool for VP8, they had initial pool
>>> member meeting sometime in June, and talk about 12 potential member
>>> companies.
>>> 
>>>http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/07/googles-webm-vp8-allegedly-infri
>>>nges
>>>
>>> .html
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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