Re: [rtcweb] Who is committed to supporting MTI? (was Re: MTI video codec, charter, RFC 3929)

Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com> Sat, 09 November 2013 19:37 UTC

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 11:36:43 -0800
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Who is committed to supporting MTI? (was Re: MTI video codec, charter, RFC 3929)
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While I appreciate the effort to gather additional information, I am
beginning to notice a trend that some of the big players here are
forgetting about the smaller players.  In particular, there aren't just 4
browsers in the world, and acting like there are only 4 browsers in the
world does not look good from a "big players vs. small players"
perspective.  For example, can we really tell the world that our WG has
concluded "lots of smaller players can't ship codec X, but we're going to
mandate it anyway because the 4 big players are willing to ship it" (which
they haven't, but assuming they did)?

May I remind you that Firefox, the very browser you represent, until very
recently, was on the "small player" side of the fence in the codec debate
and only until very recently (apparently) switched sides?  Perhaps you
could still engender in yourself some lingering empathy for those other
small players that cannot necessarily comply with the mandate of certain
codecs that you are so willingly eager to press upon them.

You may abandon their cause, you may disregard their complaints, and you
may disparage their positions, but at least do not cease to acknowledge
their existence and forget that you were once one them.  There are more
browsers than 4!




On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:

> On 11/8/13 21:59, Ron wrote:
>
>> [T]he chairs already noted at the meeting that these browser
>> vendors had all indicated they would support whatever MTI decision
>> the working group made.
>>
>
> I agree with you that one of the chairs indicated that he had personally
> received off-the-record, back-channel indications to this effect. The
> problem is that this assertion conflicts with off-the-record, back-channel
> indications that I have myself received.
>
> Perhaps someone from each of Google, Microsoft, and Apple could stand up
> and confirm the chair's claim. I'll note that Mozilla is already on the
> record in this regard.
>
> /a
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