Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass?
"Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)" <Raju.Makaraju@alcatel-lucent.com> Sun, 30 November 2014 17:18 UTC
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From: "Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)" <Raju.Makaraju@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com>, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass?
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> >>> <Raju> When ICE is NOT used, how does the offerer know that the > >>> answerer does not change the fingerprint and/or transport parameters? > >>> I guess it does not know. So, offerer has to be prepared for new DTLS > >>> association by offering actpass. When ICE is used, the answerer can't > >>> change transport parameter unless offerer does ICE restart (which > >>> changes offerer transport parameters); Ref [1] is very clear on this > >>> indicating "DTLS handshake procedure is repeated". However, even when > >>> ICE is used, I do not find any restriction about answerer not > >>> changing fingerprint. So, even without ICE restart answerer can > >>> trigger a DTLS renegotiation by changing its fingerprint. > >>> > >>> To conclude all this, IMO whether ICE is used or not, sending actpass > >>> for all new offers may be cover all possible scenarios. > >> > >> That is also my conclusion based on the discussion so far. > >> > >> I also think the JSEP draft as far as detailed out is correct, but info > >> about how the implementation should behave for Subsequent answers is > >> missing. Text saying that the role must be maintained (unless there is > >> an ICE restart) should be put in there. > > > > <Raju> > > Hi Stefan, > > Looks like, there is some misunderstanding here. > > Probably my fault in that case :) > > > My conclusion is to include > > actpass, but not the previously negotiated role, in all subsequent offers, > > not just during ICE-restarts. > > I think that is what the JSEP draft says - and my conclusion is that it > _is_ correct. > > My point was that the _answer_ should (when it is a subsequent answer) > should say the same role as in previous answers (unless there is an ICE > restart). <Raju> Hi Stefan, Sorry, it was my misunderstanding in not reading your text correctly. I did not pay attention to "_answer_" part. I agree with you that subsequent answers SHOULD (not MUST) keep previously negotiated role (except for ICE restarts). However, as Christer pointed out such clarification belong to SCTP SDP draft though. </Raju> BR Raju
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- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] JSEP: Why always offer actpass? Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)