Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a developer who doesn't come to IETF
"David Benham (dbenham)" <dbenham@cisco.com> Tue, 08 May 2012 16:37 UTC
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From: "David Benham (dbenham)" <dbenham@cisco.com>
To: Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org>, rtcweb@ietf.org
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+1 Many companies shipping in high volume pay the annual cap and have a marginal cost at or below 10c each and the low volumes (<100K) are free as noted. That leaves non-profits (or have no workable freemium model) shipping in the millions to be about the only segment with an hurdle. From: Stephan Wenger [mailto:stewe@stewe.org] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 12:09 PM To: Dean Willis; Lorenzo Miniero Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a developer who doesn't come to IETF From: Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com> Date: Friday, 4 May, 2012 16:10 [...] [...] I am more worried about the guy implementing a WebRTC security camera that uses an embedded Linux kernel and a software video encoder. Each unit might "produce" video 24x7. But there is no MPEG-LA licensed browser or OS or encoder chip to fall back on. The whole product might sell for less than it might cost him to license the codec. Really? The MPEG-LA license terms for one encoder/decoder: $0 for the first 100,000 units per year. $0.20 for the next several millions, after that $0.10 until the cap is reached. And, the MPEG-LA license is "take it or leave it" (at least for small fish like your hypothetical camera guy), so even the lawyer cost for review should be minimal. No, I continue to believe that the MPEG-LA license is not a hurdle for anyone but those giving stuff away for free, or having a business model that disallows them to pay licensing fees. It's the patents not covered by that license that you may worry about. Stephan
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… David Benham (dbenham)
- [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a devel… Dean Willis
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Dean Willis
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Jim Gettys
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Discussion on codec choices from a d… Randell Jesup