Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and requirements
Matthew Kaufman <matthew.kaufman@skype.net> Mon, 27 June 2011 23:26 UTC
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From: Matthew Kaufman <matthew.kaufman@skype.net>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and requirements
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On Jun 27, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Bernard Aboba wrote: > > Are there multiple use cases here, each with slightly different requirements? There's quite a few possible use cases... what we're looking for is the lowest common denominator use case so we can build solutions for the rest on top of that, rather than trying to build a dozen different special-purpose protocols into the browser. Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Jonathan Rosenberg
- [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and req… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Christopher Blizzard
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Igor Faynberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Manuel Simoni
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Igor Faynberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Manuel Simoni
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Christopher Blizzard
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Non-media data service consensus and… Randell Jesup
- [rtcweb] Consensus Call on Non-media data service… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Consensus Call on Non-media data ser… Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] Consensus Call on Non-media data ser… Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] Consensus Call on Non-media data ser… Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] Consensus Call on Non-media data ser… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Consensus Call on Non-media data ser… Dzonatas Sol
- [rtcweb] realiable data service Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Serge Lachapelle
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Serge Lachapelle
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Dzonatas Sol
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Emil Ivov
- [rtcweb] PseudoTCP implementation (Re: realiable … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] PseudoTCP implementation (Re: realia… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Serge Lachapelle
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Serge Lachapelle
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] realiable data service Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] PseudoTCP implementation (Re: realia… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] PseudoTCP implementation (Re: realia… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] PseudoTCP implementation (Re: realia… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] PseudoTCP implementation (Re: realia… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] PseudoTCP implementation (Re: realia… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] PseudoTCP implementation (Re: realia… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] PseudoTCP implementation (Re: realia… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] PseudoTCP implementation (Re: realia… Justin Uberti