Re: [rtcweb] One consuming project's concerns with OpenH264 as a MTI codec

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] One consuming project's concerns with OpenH264 as a MTI codec
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     Anyone else getting the feeling that we're playing a game of good 
cop, bad cop? :)

Gili

On 06/11/2013 7:57 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> I'm very sad to see Nokia exclude themselves from ever making a 
> business around VP8. It's sad to see a formerly successful technology 
> company being dismantled by lawyers and desperation.
> Silvia.
>
> On 7 Nov 2013 10:41, <Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com 
> <mailto:Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote:
>     >
>     > VP8 is not encumbered by patents because that patents that are known
>     > about are granted by Google and via Google's deal with MPEG-LA.
>      Nokia's
>     > threats have failed in Germany, so there remains no known
>     encumbrance
>     > against VP8.
>     >
>
>     This is not correct. The Nokia vs. HTC case where three V8 related
>     patents are included is still very much ongoing. For instance, one
>     of the three cases has not even been started. There is some
>     preliminary information about the first two e.g. in [1] and [2],
>     but also appeals have been made, so the processes are far from
>     complete.
>
>     Note that there are also three other Nokia patents that were
>     declared to the IETF which are not covered in the Nokia vs. HTC case.
>
>     The point is that it is definitely too early to make conclusions
>     (either way).
>
>     [1]
>     http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/05/german-court-has-apparently-found.html
>     [2]
>     http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/08/dutch-appeals-court-sides-with-nokia-in.html
>
>     Markus
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