Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third parties [Was Re:Proposal for H.263 baseline codec]
Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com> Tue, 10 April 2012 18:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third parties [Was Re:Proposal for H.263 baseline codec]
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On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Serge Lachapelle <sergel@google.com> wrote: > > Google confirms that the VP8 patent grant applies to both third-party > hardware and software implementations of VP8. > * > * > > That's very nice of Google, but I'm personally not worried about Google filing suit against me (as a small developer) if I implement using VP8. What I'm worried about is either a troll who has acquired a patent through the usual fire-sale process, or a Big Old Research Lab that has a gazillion patents but no revenue and decides to start monetizing patents its management team had forgotten existed. Both sorts of entities are very active in today's world of patent fights. And there are patents on design patterns going way back; we're approaching a world of "solid invention" where every alternative design for anything we know how to do has already been described in a patent filing. So if you really want me to be comfortable with implementing using VP8, buy me an insurance policy that will indemnify me (and any other developer) for any costs related to defending against any future infringement claims on VP8. Perhaps I'd even settle for a free software stack that includes such indemnification in its license. This wouldn't help the hardware implementer, much, however. -- Dean
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third partie… Serge Lachapelle
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Serge Lachapelle
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Monty Montgomery
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Dean Willis
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Erik Lagerway
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Kevin P. Fleming
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third pa… Paul E. Jones