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Re: [rtcweb] Requesting "SDP or not SDP" debate to be re-opened

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Wed, 19 June 2013 06:59 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>
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Hi,

I have the same understanding as you. But, just to make sure everyone know what is discussed :)

Regards,

Christer



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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Thatcher [pthatcher@google.com]
To: Christer Holmberg [christer.holmberg@ericsson.com]
CC: Martin Thomson [martin.thomson@gmail.com]; rtcweb_ietf.org [rtcweb@ietf.org]
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Requesting "SDP or not SDP" debate to be re-opened
Correct my if I'm wrong, but the API already leaves what goes over the wire completely up to the JS app.  So we couldn't re-open a debate of "SDP or not SDP" for the wire format, because there's nothing to debate.  We already decided it would be left to the JS to decide.  The only thing left to debate is the API.

Or am I wrong?



On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>> wrote:
Hi,

We need to be very clear what we talk about, or some people are always going to be confused :)

So, AFAIK, the discussion is about SDP O/A usage in the API, only in the API, and nowhere but the API.

Whatever people us on the wire is outside the scope.

Right?

Regards,

Christer



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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Thatcher [pthatcher@google.com<mailto:pthatcher@google.com>]
To: Martin Thomson [martin.thomson@gmail.com<mailto:martin.thomson@gmail.com>]
CC: rtcweb@ietf.org<mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org> [rtcweb@ietf.org<mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>]
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Requesting "SDP or not SDP" debate to be re-opened
Martin, you're right; that was overly harsh of me.  Adam, I apologize.  I'll be civil in the future.


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com<mailto:martin.thomson@gmail.com>> wrote:
I agree with Peter, except for this bit:

On 18 June 2013 15:16, Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com<mailto:pthatcher@google.com>> wrote:
> Adam, I think you're confused.

Adam is much harder to confuse than you think, or than he professes.

Speaking of burning it all down and starting over.  If you want a
house-related analogy, that's not quite correct.  It's refusing to
build an extension because the old house, while legally fit for
habitation, is falling down around your ears.  Since you only need
foundations, it's not that big a job (though I'll grant you that it's
bigger than many people realize, even with that smaller scope).

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