Re: [rtcweb] A different perspective on the video codec MTI discussion

Monty Montgomery <xiphmont@gmail.com> Thu, 14 March 2013 17:37 UTC

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> To pick a directly-relevant example, there are open-source implementations of H.264 (AVC).

Also directly relevant, I'm not allowed to use these implementations
without negotiating a license which MPEG LA will not sell me.  The
restriction/control element is more important than the money.

It's clear by inference that Ben was speaking of fully FOSS software.

Monty
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