Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and MSIDs for synchronization
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Thu, 07 February 2013 19:43 UTC
Return-Path: <ekr@rtfm.com>
X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0120F21F8870 for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:43:51 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -101.865
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.865 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.555, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X3CRjizegnyr for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:43:50 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-qe0-f50.google.com (mail-qe0-f50.google.com [209.85.128.50]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4559E21F875F for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:43:50 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-qe0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 7so1350858qea.23 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 11:43:49 -0800 (PST)
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=15Wtn0Ga86daUuXckUaIFp2/jBJHx3QHyv4j0Am72ck=; b=oeolYyEljywBcAdHInyjdsjIq0hMsA3YcS4qk8Ok3DEUH2x1MmIc7EM+M4lLviWydC WX6udVnOz4wxmZweVqJeybkM+d6fyGSLojmlHtFwKZWMEeY5sPInZunjr7b6KwPn+4GF gUIKa07azDXnrdzqNr6PMLzQ2R3znDqd+bFw0aKzamd4+N+UFwqpjbuD0nhekFc+VI9O /5tbaXhKdHi5FSWG+d0jxeO1Jtl5B5iGMURbKxGjxqFDhBahW4CWpSGmJJ4gqagkjJ/S qCUoOwfgNZgTOnyEAvdFthtMMKTrpiPZZTGC2JIzwrrJsQyAq8KKTDRCNw7gne/ALJVf 3t5A==
X-Received: by 10.224.222.15 with SMTP id ie15mr1182432qab.75.1360266229818; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 11:43:49 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.49.82.130 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:43:09 -0800 (PST)
X-Originating-IP: [155.212.214.60]
In-Reply-To: <51140038.3040001@ericsson.com>
References: <CABcZeBO105HXWoRAbaAR0fGTCLtDmAyjt-DOM=aKy80sg2SG_Q@mail.gmail.com> <51140038.3040001@ericsson.com>
From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 11:43:09 -0800
Message-ID: <CABcZeBP_-ce-JT-oDkpkDoRKjrZo+m7NLTcifCOsRBM_qKPTmg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Stefan Hakansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="20cf3074b51a6da6b604d527a978"
X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkUjCmKjiNBnY9m/zeKeeIMb36DbtjUwI9ciYlKsBEILzlnDZxHm+37wK9jyYitta3hiJ02
Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and MSIDs for synchronization
X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list <rtcweb.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb>
List-Post: <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:43:51 -0000
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Stefan Hakansson LK < stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com> wrote: > On 02/07/2013 08:22 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: > >> Here's what I was trying to say at the microphone. >> >> 1. When two MSTracks are in the same MediaStream on the sending side: >> They must generate the same MSID in SDP and the same CNAME in RTP. >> >> 2. One the receiving side, any two tracks with the same MSID will appear >> in >> the same MediaStreamTrack. >> > > Same _MediaStream_? Yes. Doh. > > >> 3. On the receiving side, any two RTP streams with the same CNAME will >> be synchronized. >> > > Yes. > > My question is basically: what if the sender creates two MediaStreams for > which all tracks have local sources (cam's, mike's), sends them to a peer, > will the RTP streams for both MediaStreams have the same or different CNAME? > > I argued for that they should have the same. > Yes, I think this is a separate (and fraught) question. :) -Ekr > >> 4. There are two ways for MSID and CNAME to be inconsistent. >> - If MSID indicates synchronization but different CNAMEs are provided, >> synchronization is not attempted. >> - If MSID indicates no synchronization but the same CNAME is used, >> then the tracks shall be synchronized, even though they appear in >> different MediaStreams. >> >> -Ekr >> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> rtcweb mailing list >> rtcweb@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/rtcweb<https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb> >> >> > ______________________________**_________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/rtcweb<https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb> >
- [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and MSI… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] Proposal for dealing with CNAMEs and… Magnus Westerlund
- [rtcweb] Simulcast was Re: Proposal for dealing w… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Simulcast was Re: Proposal for deali… Timothy B. Terriberry