Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Codec Selection alternatives

Gaelle Martin-Cocher <gmartincocher@blackberry.com> Thu, 28 November 2013 18:51 UTC

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From: Gaelle Martin-Cocher <gmartincocher@blackberry.com>
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Thanks.

I would propose profile 0 level 70 defined in annex X of
http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-H.263/

Sincerely,
Gaëlle


From: Ted Hardie [mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Codec Selection alternatives

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Gaelle Martin-Cocher <gmartincocher@blackberry.com<mailto:gmartincocher@blackberry.com>> wrote:
If we proceed with the vote, I would like to see the following choice:
All entities must support H263.

Thanks
Gaëlle


I've updated the wiki to include this as choice 13.  If you have a reference that we could use that specifies version, annexes, or any other additional detail, we can include a pointer.

Ted


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From: rtcweb [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Gaelle Martin-Cocher
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Codec Selection alternatives

Dear All,

Sorry for this late message, I was not available this past week.

It has been mentioned by a few of us that the risks on VP8 that some can't leave with, can be mitigated when VP8 becomes an ISO standard (via MPEG).
VP8 has a chance to become an MPEG deliverable in January. I believe that could make a few of us more comfortable with supporting/mandating both H264 and VP8 and could change the consensus reaching process.

Can we give VP8 that chance before forcing a vote?

Thanks
Sincerely,
Gaëlle


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From: rtcweb [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Magnus Westerlund
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Codec Selection alternatives

On 2013-11-27 12:41, Emil Ivov wrote:
> Just to confirm, this is NOT the last day of discussion on whether a
> vote is the right way to do this at all, right?

No, but tomorrow a week will have passed since we chairs sent out the proposal and solicited feedback on the proposal.

>
> That sounds like it would still be an open question for step two here:
>
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg09909.html

As we stated in this message, after the week we chairs would update the process proposal if we considered it necessary. I believe there are some clarifications that needs to be done, including the voter eligibility.

After that the stated plan was to hold a consensus call in the WG to use the proposed process.

Cheers

Magnus Westerlund

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