IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability - and... who are we designing RTCWEB for?

Wolfgang Beck <wolfgang.beck01@googlemail.com> Mon, 24 October 2011 07:46 UTC

Return-Path: <wolfgang.beck01@googlemail.com>
X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3EB21F8B87 for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:46:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.977
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nV+BfgiR6ceB for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:46:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pz0-f50.google.com (mail-pz0-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D2421F8B66 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:46:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by pzk34 with SMTP id 34so16265154pzk.9 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:46:00 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aPwmGzjkwIv+WwLAYsKtFAv3OrT9oOCwrvAylZyE8t4=; b=Xunvp81UYN1VFN0yxeABQbcOHBH9tJdtWWKBv5CiHikSlPVUjsXLAXbwAN0lF22X6p I89SvdQzMtPeYn5KMp12pXN8YxgvVWsccyM/iw2RfUy6ftzUcT0UiURi53DaIuOzALZi gMeVcZu3t4AWbGsKmyoychsRgsPafHO8rwUAQ=
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.68.9.69 with SMTP id x5mr5477400pba.118.1319442360105; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:46:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.68.55.230 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:45:59 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <4EA1B9E5.8030507@jesup.org>
References: <9C8CA816-65FB-41A0-999C-4C43128CAAB4@danyork.org> <2E239D6FCD033C4BAF15F386A979BF51159B91@sonusinmail02.sonusnet.com> <CAAJUQMjHOJxCUGTwON9PmK-QEN0jM++RTWuRpmsHS-eszcNkXQ@mail.gmail.com> <4EA1B9E5.8030507@jesup.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:45:59 +0200
Message-ID: <CAAJUQMiWTZK8XQXcm-FS+BdbjJcTtgYeYcO6k2O7LZUY8R_3Kw@mail.gmail.com>
From: Wolfgang Beck <wolfgang.beck01@googlemail.com>
To: Randell Jesup <randell-ietf@jesup.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] A plea for simplicity, marketability - and... who are we designing RTCWEB for?
X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list <rtcweb.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb>
List-Post: <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:46:01 -0000

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Randell Jesup <randell-ietf@jesup.org> wrote:
>
> This is the rough equivalent to saying "instead of exchanging email in a
> standard format, and letting people use whatever client/webmail-client they
> want to read it; if you want to read an email from a gmail user you should
> log into gmail using their interface; from an aol user log into AOL and
> their interface, etc.  Oh, and history, phonebooks, etc would all be
> separate."  Yes, it avoids standard 'federation' formats and conversions,
> but...
Phonebooks aren't a problem. They're called 'Bookmarks' in my browser.
Call history doesn't look impossible to me as well. You can either
just use the browser's
history or setup some bookmarking web site that keeps track of your calls.

I used to defend Usenet using all of your arguments. The Web has won.


Wolfgang

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email