Re: [rtcweb] On the topic of MTI video codecs

"Jeremy Laurenson (jlaurens)" <jlaurens@cisco.com> Wed, 30 October 2013 18:33 UTC

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From: "Jeremy Laurenson (jlaurens)" <jlaurens@cisco.com>
To: Leon Geyser <lgeyser@gmail.com>
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On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Leon Geyser <lgeyser@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately like Jonathan pointed out H.264 will only be able to be used royalty free on certain(most popular) platforms.
> To be able to avoid negotiation failure we need a MTI codec that every potential now/future browser would be able to implement freely.
> I like what Cisco did, but the solution seems a bit half-baked.
> 
> On 30 October 2013 19:55, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:
> As Jonathan mentioned earlier, this morning Cisco announced that it will be open sourcing an H.264 implementation as well as gratis binary modules compiled from that source and hosted by Cisco for download. Mozilla will be modifying Firefox to support H.264 by downloading Cisco's binary module.
> 
> In previous discussions of which codec should be MTI, Mozilla has stated that it could not accept H.264 as MTI, primarily because we could not deliver H.264 in Firefox. That obstacle is now removed, and we can accept either codec as MTI.
> 
> Mozilla intends to continue supporting VP8 in WebRTC, but we will also support H.264.
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