Re: [rtcweb] Agenda requests for Atlanta meeting

Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> Tue, 09 October 2012 01:24 UTC

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From: Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Agenda requests for Atlanta meeting
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On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
<fluffy@cisco.com>wrote:

>
> Check out text from RFC 3311 that says
>
>       o  If the UPDATE is being sent before the completion of the INVITE
>          transaction, and the initial INVITE contained an offer, the
>          UPDATE cannot be sent with an offer unless the callee has
>          generated an answer in a reliable provisional response, has
>          received a PRACK for that reliable provisional response, has
>          not received any requests (PRACK or UPDATE) with offers that it
>          has not answered, and has not sent any UPDATE requests
>          containing offers that have not been answered.
>
> So the 183 would be need to be sent reliably at which case I would expect
> the gateways to map it to a final offer in RTCWeb not a provisional one. At
> that point when the update comes along with an offer, it just mapped to
> RTCweb offer.
>
>
And what happens with the next 183 or 200 OK sent reliably in a different
dialog? When we are dealing with serial forking we are dealing with
different sequential dialogs created by the same offer, aren't we?
Otherwise this is not really standard compliant.
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Roman Shpount