Re: [rtcweb] Video codec selection - way forward
Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Fri, 15 November 2013 16:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Video codec selection - way forward
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On 2013-11-15 16:42, cowwoc wrote: > Magnus, > > In light of Harald and your responses, I'm in favor of two separate > options for H.261 and Theora respectively. If we find a narrow those > options down to one within the next two weeks, great, but otherwise I'd > list them as separate options. > > Also, how would the "voting" work exactly? I was imagining the following > mechanism: > > * Each person is given the 10 or so options we'll end up with in 2 weeks. > * The person throws out all options they don't consider acceptable > under any circumstances > * They sort the remaining options in order of preference > * We tabulate the results across everyone, assigning a decreasing > number of points to the options as the priority decreases (meaning, > 1st choice gets the most points, 2nd choice less, and so on) > * We publish the results, how many "points" each option had and if > there is a huge margin for the top one, it wins. > We chairs are working on a proposal for a process for the selection for the WG to review and do a consensus call on to use. We hope to have something next week. Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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