Re: [rtcweb] RTT Education: Neat Demonstration of NON-peer-to-peer RTT (for future webrtc standardization purposes)

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Fri, 31 May 2013 20:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] RTT Education: Neat Demonstration of NON-peer-to-peer RTT (for future webrtc standardization purposes)
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On 5/31/13 1:31 PM, Mark Rejhon wrote:
> Actually, it's not quite that simple.
> 
> Some countries made RFC4103 part of their government legislation. 
> There are two open real-time text standards that is necessary to
> make provisions for, to cover world-wide usage.
> 
> Everytime SIP is used for anything, it should always use RFC4013. 
> If WebRTC implementations touch SIP and not XMPP, and utilize
> real-time text, then it needs to use RFC4103, even if it has to use
> the sockets feature.  Thus, we need to make sure that it's also
> usable for RFC4103. So it's not a 100% solved problem; there is
> still a SIP need.

Although I have not read the legislation that mandates use of RFC 4103
(and I'm not particularly interested in the Layer 8 issues), I don't
quite agree that one can't use SIP and XMPP in concert. For example,
one could use SIP to negotiate use of XMPP with XEP-0301 as the RTT
channel, similar to draft-sparks-simple-jabber-sessions from way back
in 2002:

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-sparks-simple-jabber-sessions-00.txt

That might not be palatable to the politicians, but it might be an
acceptable technical solution.

Peter

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[rtcweb] RTT Education: Neat Demonstration of NON… Mark Rejhon
Re: [rtcweb] RTT Education: Neat Demonstration of… Bernard Aboba
Re: [rtcweb] RTT Education: Neat Demonstration of… Adam Roach
Re: [rtcweb] RTT Education: Neat Demonstration of… Mark Rejhon
Re: [rtcweb] RTT Education: Neat Demonstration of… Mark Rejhon
Re: [rtcweb] RTT Education: Neat Demonstration of… Peter Saint-Andre
Re: [rtcweb] RTT Education: Neat Demonstration of… Gunnar Hellstrom
Re: [rtcweb] RTT Education: Neat Demonstration of… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)