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Re: [rtcweb] IETF will fail to implement Video codec MTI after election? [was RE: Proposed Video Selection Process]

"Parthasarathi R" <partha@parthasarathi.co.in> Sun, 24 November 2013 19:29 UTC

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From: Parthasarathi R <partha@parthasarathi.co.in>
To: 'Gregory Maxwell' <greg@xiph.org>, rtcweb@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] IETF will fail to implement Video codec MTI after election? [was RE: Proposed Video Selection Process]
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Gregory,

Please consider the situation like couple of browser vendors don't complies with MTI or delay the chosen MTI for 3-5 years.

Thanks
Partha

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtcweb [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gregory
> Maxwell
> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 6:49 AM
> To: rtcweb@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [rtcweb] IETF will fail to implement Video codec MTI after
> election? [was RE: Proposed Video Selection Process]
> 
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Parthasarathi R
> <partha@parthasarathi.co.in> wrote:
> > I agree with Emil & Peter that voting will not help to achieve Video
> codec
> > MTI in the industry. Let us assume that codec x is selected as per
> the
> > election result. Why should the opposite camp browser vendor or
> WebRTC
> > gateway/conference vendor *MUST* implement the specified codec x for
> the
> > sake IETF compliance?
> 
> In some markets being able to respond "Complies" to an RFP requirement
> for a particular RFC is commercially significant.
> 
> It is also not unlikely that there is a great swath of "will do the
> minimum necessary" implementers— outside of the big name vendors— who
> will tend to just do as the spec requires. So the decision here
> determines what code licensing/exposure will be required to interop
> with those parties.
> 
> There are also a number of other reasons parties may care.
> 
> And, as you can observe, many people do care. If it really was
> irrelevant you wouldn't see all of this noise.
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