Re: [rtcweb] Google statement on codecs

Miguel Casas-Sanchez <miguelecasassanchez@gmail.com> Thu, 02 August 2012 13:01 UTC

Return-Path: <miguelecasassanchez@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E89B21F84EB for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 06:01:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -3.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id agtBf6Vskgwa for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 06:01:12 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com (mail-we0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E4521F84E4 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 06:01:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so6588393wey.31 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 06:01:09 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=s7mIbpeWn8F0xbF0nBZwc1LgYu+7PSRufVv0d91Qb5A=; b=SccnZv/tnFWrNAEh0yxDJamJum6tC6mDftZm8o3CsxVacCwORbbeUuLe2Bc+FpQ6Cq ft8wLw21w16obMGhCrKyyaYOcW0xktrVdPv0iaVzgl17xoQuMtwzqkxUAxk8p95InDzX h/UHKqinXdG9rer0uIdivunsBQ+R77b+n5s5q8hH/ra3SG/MJ5Vvoi5AEjPs2ShmTyG/ Hme/e8Un3Gf/qjZ304izer2bm884oyKyudjm4swYNwwURcvNLJiXgB2W5B/ZDdFDnGcD 0uRG7gDW61vt9eYR4u7I2z6VH+qGTiSoKHEYSrMb1E/b5Wsvkf/AoQIRSreHK5dgDkPi 7Pqw==
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.180.83.106 with SMTP id p10mr4532151wiy.21.1343912463612; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 06:01:03 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.216.141.150 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 06:01:03 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <3425F545-99A6-4CAD-8ECD-E888275A27DD@apple.com>
References: <CAOJ7v-2nghk6HcFv_6xAs+hrK=Uqm+oTsvqLFtxm4oDBY9oDgA@mail.gmail.com> <5015D506.5010201@mozilla.com> <5015E6FF.2000804@reavy.org> <5015FBE7.9060809@thaumas.net> <501640E3.1000009@jesup.org> <3425F545-99A6-4CAD-8ECD-E888275A27DD@apple.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:01:03 +0200
Message-ID: <CAMujMTw6KDSJYuEHAAN_kq-tOAXxddyUf6wO3xeqJSGaekn9ZQ@mail.gmail.com>
From: Miguel Casas-Sanchez <miguelecasassanchez@gmail.com>
To: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Cc: "rtcweb@ietf.org" <rtcweb@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Google statement on codecs
X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list <rtcweb.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb>
List-Post: <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:01:13 -0000

You can count on a +1 from me, for what matters. I agree on the base
statement, but what's more important, I've seen what happens if you
follow down the licesing/royalty way of ITU and the likes, or, like
some of us call here, the lawyer's way... I bet we all know a bit
what's this about.
M

On 1 August 2012 00:12, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:08 , Randell Jesup <randell-ietf@jesup.org> wrote:
>
>> On 7/29/2012 8:13 PM, Ralph Giles wrote:
>>> On 12-07-29 6:44 PM, Maire Reavy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mandating encumbered codecswould force open-source projects to violate
>>>> the spec (by not implementing a mandatory codec).  For this reason and
>>>> the reasons Justin cites, we believe Opus, G.711 and VP8 are the best
>>>> mandatory-to-implement choices for the spec.
>>> +1
>>
>
> There are open-source implementations of encumbered codecs (e.g. x264); and I expect that there are proprietary codecs that are believed to be unencumbered :-).  Let's not confuse the two classes.
>
> David Singer
> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>
> _______________________________________________
> rtcweb mailing list
> rtcweb@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb