Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN
"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Fri, 04 November 2011 16:06 UTC
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From: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>
To: 'Eric Rescorla' <ekr@rtfm.com>, 'Ned Freed' <ned.freed@mrochek.com>
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Cc: 'Behave WG' <behave@ietf.org>, 'Keith Moore' <moore@cs.utk.edu>, 'Keith Moore' <moore@network-heretics.com>, rtcweb@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN
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> -----Original Message----- > From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Eric Rescorla > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 8:56 AM > To: Ned Freed > Cc: Keith Moore; Keith Moore; Behave WG; rtcweb@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> > wrote: > >> Top-posting a general principle, detailed comment at the bottom.... > > > >> For all URI schemes, I think the URI needs to contain all the > >> information you need in order to make contact with the service; you > >> can't negotiate until you've made contact. > >> (the process may involve things like "resolve through a resolution > >> mechanism like DNS" or "get authorization tokens from somewhere > else"). > > > >> In the case of TURN, you need to distinguish between TCP, UDP and > TLS, > >> and you need to make that determination before you send the first > >> packet. That means the distinguishing information between those > three > >> things belongs in the URL; I don't think the scheme is a good place > to > >> encode it. > > > > I'm in complete agreement with Harald on all of these points. And > while it > > would have been nice if URL syntax was less messy and more general, > making > > it easier to do these sorts of things in a consistent way, it quite > simply > > isn't and we have to make do with what we have. > > I don't have any commitment to the scheme. What's the best place? http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uri-bis-05 uses "?transport=", for example: turn://example.com?transport=tcp turns://example.com?transport=udp -d > -Ekr > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Keith Moore
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Ned Freed
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] URI schemes for TURN and STUN Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [rtcweb] [BEHAVE] URI schemes for TURN and ST… Tina TSOU