Re: [rtcweb] Counting NOs (Re: Straw Poll on Nokia mincing)

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Mon, 23 December 2013 15:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Counting NOs (Re: Straw Poll on Nokia mincing)
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On 12/22/2013 10:42 PM, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote:
> On 2013/12/23 14:05, Dave Crocker wrote:
>> Sorry, but simply and absolutely not.
>>
>> IETF working groups do not have membership. Period.
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2418, which is an IETF BEST CURRENT
> PRACTICE, contains phrases such as "members of the IETF", "IETF
> members", and "working group members". Are you saying it needs to be
> revised?

Yes.  Worse is that the sloppy phrasing was in the original version of 
the document that I co-authored.  It leads to the sort of ambiguity 
producing this thread.


> It also contains the sentence "There is no formal membership in the IETF.".

Exactly.

d/


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Dave Crocker
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