Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements-07)
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Sat, 16 June 2012 19:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements-07)
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On 06/15/2012 11:18 PM, Randell Jesup wrote: > On 6/15/2012 4:49 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: >> On 15 June 2012 13:42, Randell Jesup<randell-ietf@jesup.org> wrote: >>> I would also suggest that for video-mute that instead of stopping >>> video or >>> sending black, the application should send a "mute image". >> >> The question I have is whether there is: a) a fixed image/video that >> is serialized to RTP b) video "comfort noise", or c) local mute >> image/video playback. If it can't be c, then you might need to >> explain yourself. > > Either we build it into the system (which I dislike - SetMuteImage() > or whathaveyou, though we could), or we put it in the application > domain and suggest or assist implementation. > > The simple way to handle Mute is to revector the input to a "mute" or > "hold" source, and they may not be the same (hold would have "Please > Hold" and music, perhaps; mute would have silence and "Muted" or a > camera with a circle/slash, etc). You can also signal that out of > band to let the other end take smart action (remove muted video image, > display "muted" next to a name, etc). This can be done via > DataChannels, for example. You may then reinvite for Hold to make it > one-way, but that's mostly optional. The resulting requirements seem to me to be: 1) To be able to use a still image as source for a video stream 2) To be able to change the source of a video stream after its creation Both are requirements on the GetUserMedia API. Can we link these to a specific use case, or do we need to modify the use case document so that the requirements are clear? Harald
- [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-ca… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-ca… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-ca… Göran Eriksson AP
- Re: [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-ca… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-ca… Göran Eriksson AP
- [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-c… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] More Comments on draft-ietf-rtcweb-u… Hutton, Andrew
- [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comments … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- [rtcweb] 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Sunyang (Eric)
- Re: [rtcweb] 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More C… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Harald Alvestrand
- [rtcweb] 答复: 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More C… Sunyang (Eric)
- [rtcweb] 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Sunyang (Eric)
- Re: [rtcweb] 答复: 答复: Mute implementations (Re: Mo… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] 答复: Mute implementations (Re: More C… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Mute implementations (Re: More Comme… Stefan Hakansson LK